August 17, 2023

Zelenskyy visited positions of 10th Army Corps

Photos reveal possible composition of the newly formed army corps.

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During a working trip to the Zaporizhzhia Oblast, the President of Ukraine V. Zelenskyy visited forwarded command post of the 10th Army Corps. He was briefed by the corps commander Serhiy Perets about the situation in the direction of Melitopol, where the corps is deployed.

Brig. Gen. Serhiy Perets is a former commander of Ukrainian 56th Motorized Brigade (2016 – 2018) and deputy commander of Joint Forces Operation. He now commands the 10th Army Corps.

During the visit, he also met with Ukrainian soldiers. Official photos later revealed, at least partly, the composition of 10th Army Corps. The following units were present during the Zelenskyy visit of the corps forwarded command post:

Ukrainian President Zelensky also visited positions of 3rd Brigade Spartan, 15th Brigade Kara-Dag of Ukrainian National Guard and 47th Mechanized Brigade, 65th Mechanized Brigade deployed in the area, but these weren’t present at the ceremony and are likely not under the corps command.

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Baal-aal

Just because they are air assault does not mean they can’t be in 10th corp.
10th corp has a marine unit (Ukrainian Navy) in it as well.

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Hello!

Can somebody tell me what kind of soldiers the three persons on the 1.,3. and 4. picture are?

Like the last one wears this special „red hat“ which seems to specifiy his rank?

I‘m curious because all three persons are dressed so different, so – beside the different brigade/batallion can there be defined some more info? (Of course totally with a face software or something, but as ama

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teur?

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And to be more clear:

I ask myself like: „Is this person an attilery man or the one a person who fight in offensive attack per foot, storming trenches or something“

Not like on this specific person who can be seen, more on the dressed style.

(And sorry, I could‘n edit my second post, even after 3 minutes it tells me, that I post too much, too fast)

Tristan

Pic 1: Maybe a drone operator ? of the Skala Bataillion
Pic 3: a soldier of the 117th mech brigade
Pic 4: red beret = a paratrooper of the 46th air assault brigade.

There is no indication of rank.

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Thanks Tristan!

Kay

The URK forces do not have a uniform dress code like western armies. A soldier normally wears a beret on official occasions (4th image). Fishing hat (3rd picture) is worn in warm areas (desert, tropics…). And a baseball cap is actually not common at all. So there are already regulations on how a soldier appears in public. In the German Bundeswehr, a soldier may e.g. don’t chew gum.

Kay

At the front, however, not so much attention is paid to it, the main thing is that the soldier feels comfortable in his clothes.
The badge (arm or chest) shows which unit the soldier belongs to. Rank on the epaulette. The branch of service or unit can be recognized by the color of the beret.
Green: mechanized unit, fighter
Black: armor
Blue: medic
Red: paratroopers, special forces
etc.

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Thank you for that overview! Good to know now a bit more!

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Thank you Kay!

@Jerome: Do you know why my former „Thank you“ message was deleted?

The second one connected to Tristan still exists, but the one to Kay is like invincible. (Don‘t want to look unkind after getting this helpful answers)

Tristan

The organization of Ukrainian forces is so confusing. Assuming Jerome is right, it means that most of the units that were attacking near Robotyne (47th, 65th or mire recently 82nd brigades) are not under the command of the 10th corps. Do they belong to the 9th corps? If so, there are 2 corpses in only 1 direction of attack. Not the best structure of command.

Kay

Is determined because the units are pretty decimated and so the front is filled. In that regard, the Russians are actually more organized. They fill their units with prisoners, the UKR fills the corps with half-full units.

Tristan

Any evidence of what you are saying about ukrainian units ?

Kay

Don’t you think that the Ukrainian armed forces have to deal with losses as well as the Russians?

Tristan

I haven’t seen anything that suggest that the units we are talking about (the 10th corps) are “decimaded”, nor that they are “half full”. So, if you have some reliable information, please share.

Tristan

Another Russian bot! Well, they are all the same.

So:
1) There isn’t a full mobilization (this would mean an army of several millions men), and we have plenty of evidence of men not in the military
2) There aren’t many desertion on the Ukrainian side. On the Russian side, there are
3) Ukrainian military is stronger than ever: they have increase their size and received more equipment

Tristan

4) Ukrainians fight for their life and freedom.Russian leaders want to genocide Ukrainians = mass rape, deportation of children, torture of civilians in occupied region.
5) Russian economy is weaker than ever: the Ruble is going down despite 12% interest rate, their oil and gaz export revenues are cut off, powerty is growing and oligarchs are getting their money out of Russia.

dolgan

yes everythnig following the plan.

dolgan

and about russian …

Noelle

that’s actually not that surprising. It’s is not a IIWW. Armies/Corps are organisational structures too big for the scale, fighting is done within JTF frame (delegated elements from different units best suited at the moment for the job or just in the place where shit hits the fan). ‘Kampfgruppe’ would be your IIWW rough (very) equivalent.

Lev Vuksin

https://english.pravda.ru/amp/hotspots/157433-ukraine_counter_offensive/
According to that both the 9th and 10th are there.

Beowulf

46th brigade belongs to Ukrainian Airmobile Forces, 10th corp belong to Ukrainian Ground Forces. They cannot be together.

Lev Vuksin

I imagine all the troops on that section are likely part of the Corp as a Corp is an operations grouping and having 2 Corp level command structures on so small of a front would over complicate there logistics which is the main reason to form and operational grouping is to simplify logistics.

Beowulf

Rather, all Air Assault Forces should be considered as one large corps. However, what you said is possible only at the level of situational command within a sector. A corps is considered to be something stable. The main branches of command are as follows: General Staff – Ground Forces Staff – Corps Command – 116th, 117th, 118th Brigades, and General Staff – Air Assault Forces Staff – 46th Brigade.

Lev Vuksin

I found this https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/03/ukraine-is-forming-three-new-army-corps-should-it-bring-back-divisions-too/ and Wikipedia has a page for the 10th corps that lists 21st 33rd 37th marine 47th and 82nd. So I’d say Ukrainian corps are closer to a Russian corps then an American corps.

Beowulf

they have been invited to meet with President. This is completely not the reason think that brigade from different brunches of arms in one corp.

Yes, you right more correct translation from Ukranian would be Air Assault Forces.

Noelle

just like the Marines and 5th Infantry and 1st Armored in Baghdad maybe?
It’s an active combat zone, not a parade.